25 years, and so many appeals later, Justice is served!
So it's official. US justice is about revenge
rather than reform.
Not necessariyly 'revenge', but justice.
Yes, I'm sure you could throw out the lame arguement that executing Tookie won't bring back the four people he killed with a shotgun. But having him sit in jail would not do it either.
His execution serves as an example of what happens when you take another life AND as a deterrent to gang-bangers that think they'll get away with murder.
He wasn't just sitting in jail. He was reaching out to kids who could identify with him (poor, deprived, discriminated against) and trying to show them where he'd gone wrong. Trying to steer them away from the path he'd gone down.
From what I've read about Tookie, he was "reaching out to kids" but still wouldn't renounce his affiliation with the Crips.
And this started only seven or eight years ago - probably when he realized that he was close to being executed. Up until that 'reformation', he was a pain-in-the-ass prisoner according to both prison guards and other inmates.
In the end, he didn't seem 'reformed' to me.
I simply can't understand why you're so comfortable with killing people.
I am VERY OK with the revenge aspect of our justice system. If you shotgunned down my family - the father was shot in the groin to bleed to death, and the daughter took a shot to the front/left side of her face - I'd have a damn party when they injected your ass.
Prison is for punishment, not reform.
What does it matter that he tried to better his life (and THAT is up for debate, considering it was his girlfriend that primarily wrote the children's books, and the aforementioned non-repudiation of his gang ties - or the fact that he just wouldn't "rat out" his former homies)? He was in prison for killing 4 people. He was a mass murderer! Who gives a shit if he's reformed?
"Killing" people? Only if they were to harm or attempt to harm my family would I "kill" someone.
Executing them, on the other hand, is fine by me. This world suffers from people not taking responsibility for their actions - they'll - blame someone/something for their stupid mistakes, i.e., I was raised in the ghetto...my father beat me as child....I was found guilty at trial so I must have been the victim of racist jurors - the list goes on. There's always someone else at fault.
The Other Mike S. said it right - prison is punish ment, not reform. If someone turns a new leaf and is released and doesn't break the law again - THEN it's reform. But it's reform that was initiated by the prisoner. No amount of 'reform programming' will make someone want to be an upstanding citizen unless they want to.
Fuck him - he got what was coming and Arnold had the balls to take his stand, Hollywood and moonbats be damned!
Looks like your executioners are going to be
working overtime when the killers of innocent
Iraquis are held to account.
They called Iraqis and WTF does this have to do with the American justice system?
Leave it to a barking moonbat to try and tie anything to Iraq and that's a debate that's been won time and again here.
I thought the point was obvious. Excuse me for over-estimating you.
There are thousands of Iraqis (thank you) who feel exactly the same way that 'the other Mike S' feels. They've seen their children, wives, nephews, nieces, parents, grandparents, cousins etc. murdered in horrible ways. The fact that the murderers were wearing American uniforms is neither here nor there. According to your system of law these murderers should fry.
Unless, of course, you have double standards.
"Murder" in Iraq is subjective - people die in war. Those that did it maliciously have been or will pay for it.
You cannot lump in all civilian deaths into a murder category. And if you insist on doing so, please feel compelled to lump in those that have died because of 'freedom fighters'.
And once again - the topic was Tookie, not yet another rehashing of whether Operation Iraqi Freedom was legitimate in your eyes. Please stick to the topic at hand....