Comments: "Gringos Go Home?"

GREAT STUFF! There are millions of us who feel the same way on both sides of the political spectrum and the gotdam politicians are feeling the heat. And if they don't take some positive action they will feel the flame come election time.

Posted by GUYK at March 31, 2006 06:53 AM

Good to see you posting again and I am in total agreement with you on this one. I was stationed in San Diego for 12 years and watched it become more and more Northern Tijauna. Glad I got out of there when I did.

Posted by Rey B at March 31, 2006 10:46 AM

You couldn't have stated it any clearer, this is the Delftsman spirit we've all all missed.Welcome back Bert.
I've watched the hometown turn into little Mexico for the past 30 years, about 30% can speak broken english the rest not a bit. How many are legal, how many are not? I don't know but at the last 'amnesty' deadline they were lined up 3 blocks long for days, registering for Social Security cards. The State has built a health clinic, food distribution center and a local welfare office there, and the community was forced to build two new schools. All light industrial jobs left the area and the agricultural side is on it's ear. I sold all interest there and moved away. It must all be Wal-Mart's fault.

Posted by Jack at March 31, 2006 11:22 AM

Good Post...Hope your feeling a bit better.
See ya soon ..
NEiland Dea...

Posted by NEilV at March 31, 2006 03:51 PM

Delftsman, good to see you back and ranting.

I agree with everything you say. If we're going to have borders, we have to defend them. And if we're not going to defend them, then let's not pretend we have them.

I believe that illegals are taking jobs Americans don't want, I think that the depression of wages caused by illegals depresses wages so much that good jobs become jobs that no American can afford to take. I can't really fault those for whom even these nearly slave conditions are better than where they came form. I fault those who hire them. And I know someone with personal experience of losing a job to an illegal.

But here's the one thing I can't get out of my head and it's why I have a problem with the Sensenbrenner approach. When I picture deporting 12 million illegals, I picture round ups of men, women and children. I picture detention camps and American citizens helping people hide and risking arrest themselves. Where have we seen this before--and not only the obvious? We only have to go back to WW2 and the round-ups of Japanese. Maybe this is over-dramatized, but how else are you going to deport 12 million people? And even if a guest worker program were enacted, the numbers I've heard would only grant about 2 million permits.

I don't have the answers. I only have the questions. And I don't like the choices.

I don't like the idea of national identity cards, but how are we going to know who's legal and who's not. I don't like the idea of amnesty, because that just encourages more people to come and figure if they can lie under the radar long enough, another amnesty will come along. I do think we need to hold employers responsible, but there are already fines for hiring illegals and I doubt it is more than a bump in the road. I don't like having our social programs clogged and schools overburdened, yet I don't like seeing children hungry and uneducated. I don't like the idea of a wall, which won't stop everyone, but a fence doesn't stop anyone.

I do think we should step up enforcement of businesses that knowingly hire illegals--I'm not worried about the small businesses who maybe don't check too closely, but I do worry about the large businesses who depend on illegal immigration. But these are the same businesses giving big contributions to politicians--do we really think there will be a crackdown? \

Maybe we need to consider a constitional amendment to bar citizenship to persons born in this country to illegals. I don't like it, but...

We need to do something, but what? I don't ever want to see round-ups and detention camps and neighbors spying on neighbors in my own country--not even an imitation of them.

All questions, no answers, I know. But there are no magic bullets.

I don't h

Posted by Grandma_Jo at March 31, 2006 09:24 PM

Amen brother, amen

Posted by hoosierboy at April 3, 2006 08:02 AM


I AM A FULL BLOODED man from the (purepecha nation.)

i do not have any spanish, in my blood, i have the right to fihgt for my land wich is the land of my people the native american people.

from alaska to argentina.

i do not ask any one of you to go back to england, thats just as unreal not posible.

JUST LOOK AT THE LOS ANGELES MAYOR, do you see any spanish blood in him???? NO!!!!!

thats because he is like most mexicans and most in the so called lain american country,s he is (a native american)

another thing, how do you not expect to be hated by most of the world, if from the start you invated our land, murder my blood brothers the CHEROKEE , APACHE, and all other native nations?

AND NOW YOU INVADE SMALL COUNTRY cowardlly droping bombs from plains! killing small children a weman!

how do you not expect most of the woeld to hate the US ?

i todavia tienen la desfachates, y sinverguenza de decir que somos espanoles?? pero que descarados son estos gringos, europeos!

beliave me i am a pure bloode native american! i have NO SPNISH BLOOD in my ancestry!

Posted by Apache Olmeca at August 12, 2006 11:47 PM
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