Comments: Wake the hell up

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"If you have never slept with someone of your same gender, then how do you know you wouldn't prefer it?"

Absurd. And oddly, it's the exact same mentality as your average wingnut who claims that homosexuality is a choice; The group you cite appears to encourage going against one's own instinctual feelings to explore homosexuality---while intolerant, bigoted members of the far right encourage going against's one's own instinctual feelings to suppress homosexuality.

I trust that you dislike both equally, Felix. I know I do. Though I won't hold my breath waiting for your bashing of the next loony tidbit from the religious right.

Posted by dan at May 19, 2006 01:16 PM

Dan:
The story points out how incredibly stupid some public servants are. Only a lunatic lefty could compare this post to a small number of stunod righties who think wearing purple is a choice.

And the folks who run this website are not required to seek out stories that balance out your world. Btw, are you wearing your purple clothes today?

Posted by AJ Lynch at May 19, 2006 09:04 PM

Indeed, AJ. Well said. Dan has every right to talk about balance -- when his own site conforms to that rule. In dan's own words: Don't hold your breath.

But I agree dan: I think it absurd to consider homosexuality a choice. Why would someone choose a lifestyle that will, for the most part, get you nothing but scorn?

Posted by Hube at May 19, 2006 09:25 PM

The point is, the analogy is clear and correct-- and as I said, interesting. I was pointing out that these dummies ("lefties", presumably) actually have the exact same mindset as those religious conservatives they criticize.

Yeah, I'm a lunatic.

Posted by dan at May 20, 2006 01:20 PM

Oh, and AJ? Good attempt at the trying-to-marginalize-the-religious-right thing. But last I checked, a nice chunk of Americans believe homosexuality is a choice. Here's one survey from '04--- 46% of Bush supporters believe it's a choice, compared to 26% of Kerry voters.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/22/opinion/polls/main657068.shtml

It's more than a "few righties."

Posted by dan at May 20, 2006 01:53 PM

Dan:
I am going to look at the CBS poll and I'll bet it's full of it.

Posted by AJ Lynch at May 20, 2006 06:59 PM

Dan:
Read your poll again, I took the liberty of pasting the pertinent parts below. IMHO, it is very poorly worded and the conclusions as written are unclear (but you conveniently cheery-picked that which supports your hysteria).

Below is the verbatim data from the CBS pool.

IS DEFINING MARRIAGE AS ONLY BETWEEN A MAN AND WOMAN IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO CHANGE THE U.S. CONSTITUTION?

Yes
40%
No
56%

Those who voted for Bush earlier this month, conservatives, and weekly churchgoers are more likely to think amending the Constitution to define marriage is an important issue.

47% say being homosexual is something a person cannot change (an increase from March), while 39% believe being gay or lesbian is a choice that people make. Bush and Kerry’s voters hold different views; 46% of Bush supporters think homosexuality is a choice, compared to 26% of Kerry’s voters.

Views on whether homosexuality is a choice inform views of same sex couples’ relationships. Of those who believe homosexuality is a choice, 67% oppose any legal recognition of same-sex relationships. Among those who believe homosexuality is not a choice, 73% favor some type of legal recognition of same-sex relationships.

MY QUESTION IS THE POLL SEEMS TO BE CLAIMING 46% OC CONSERVATIBVE/ CHURCH-GOING BUSH SUPPORTERS BUT NOT ALL BUSH SUPPORTERS (THAT IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE FROM WHAT DAN CLAIMED).

Posted by AJ LYNCH at May 20, 2006 07:11 PM

I found a Washington Post poll citing 33% (albeit an older one, circa '99)... and a couple others in the low 30's to upper 30's.

There's no point in arguing. I know, AJ. No matter how many I find, they'll all be bogus, misleading, liberally biased, phony, or the work of Bill Clinton. Probably no point in wasting any more of either of our time on a nice spring evening (at least where I live).

Posted by dan at May 20, 2006 08:29 PM

MY QUESTION IS THE POLL SEEMS TO BE CLAIMING 46% OC CONSERVATIBVE/ CHURCH-GOING BUSH SUPPORTERS BUT NOT ALL BUSH SUPPORTERS (THAT IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE FROM WHAT DAN CLAIMED).

What? I can't imagine it being any clearer. Where are you getting that it's not 46% of Bush supporters?

Posted by dan at May 20, 2006 08:34 PM

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