Comments: Joe Lieberman: Good enough for veep; not good enough for Senate

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Have you seen Gore's film, Rhodey? I saw it on Sunday. Pretty bland as a film, but the stats and science behind the whole thing are amazing. I'm tired of hearing right-wingers bashing films like this before even seeing them. Did you see Fahrenheit 9/11? I did. I also saw the Dick Morris film FarenHYPE 9/11 and the conservative-response film Celsius 41.11. Both good films. The thing with me is, I don't condemn right-wing films before I see them.

See Gore's may be swayed.

Posted by Mike M. at June 20, 2006 06:56 PM

Mike: Where did i mention Gore's movie? His global warming position has been well known long before it came out. I mention him regarding the ABC page in jest, anyway.

Still, if I saw Gore's movie, I'd certainly check his "facts" out before being swayed by them.

Posted by Rhodey at June 20, 2006 07:05 PM

Hey Mike? You might want to check this site out as sort of a rebuttal to Gore's movie. (Thanks to Duffy over at Pencader Days for that.)

No, I haven't seen the movie. Don't know if I will. (Do I want to guffaw at scenes noted thusly: "Gore's credibility is damaged early in the film when he tells the audience that, by simply looking at Antarctic ice cores with the naked eye, one can see when the American Clean Air Act was passed.") Global warming is a very complex issue, and didn't Gore state (regarding his flick) that it is necessary to overdramatize it (paraphrase)?

I don't want to really get into the whole shebang here, but in general my view is that the planet is quite a resilient construct, and considering fossil fuels are finite and won't be used after about another 50 years or so, I find it very difficult to believe any human-caused warming effects can't be absorbed or reversed.

Posted by Hube at June 20, 2006 07:38 PM

To be sure, Gore's film did suck -- as a film, that is. Had I known it would be a verbatim showing of his BS lecture, then I surely wouldn't have paid $10 to see it. That being said, Gore's thesis is exactly what you said -- that the effects of human-caused warming CAN be reversed. However, he lays out detailed facts (that, I'm sure, are backed up in the coffee table book companion to the film) stating what exactly global warming is and why it's so important to study and understand.'re taking the quote you mentioned (re: Clean Air Act) totally out of context. The line was played for LAUGHS in the film. People in Gore's audience laughed. I laughed. It was tongue-in-cheek. He was using the metaphor of being able to tell the age of a tree by counting its rings.

Posted by Mike M. at June 20, 2006 11:20 PM

As the AEI pointed out, one of Gore's trips on a private jet to hector people about global warming causes more pollution than a Hummer produces in an entire YEAR. The man is in no position to be telling me about responsibility.

Posted by Duffy at June 21, 2006 08:27 AM

When Gore picked Lieberman as his running mate, Lieberman had not yet revealed that he wanted to invade Iraq. Big difference. Also, Lieberman's cross-aisle activities seemed innocuous and harmless in the 90s, until the Bush admin took over all three branches and began implementing truly evil stuff with Lieberman's help.

Lieberman showed his true colors after 2000 and Gore and all of us have every right to change our minds.

See, that's the thing about progressives - we are able to change our minds based on events that happen in the real world. Unlike the Republicans, who - how does it go? "...believe the same thing on Wednesday they believed on Monday, despite what happened on Tuesday."

Furthermore, Gore learned a lesson from his defeat that the future of Democratic success lies in returning to the progressive roots. Not in sucking up to Republicans and calling it centrism.

Posted by example at June 21, 2006 10:41 AM

....while Lieberman has retained his common sense and perspective

I don't mind Lieberman. Unlike some (you McCain bashing GOP'ers), I think diversity in a party is great. I'm gonna pull the lever in November for a pro-life, pro-gun, religious Democratic Senate candidate. And I'll be perfectly happy about it.

But give me a damn break on the "he's stayed the same while Gore has gone loony" bit. Nice perspective. Jeez oh man.

Posted by dan at June 21, 2006 08:50 PM

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