Comments: Pragmatism Of The Virginia Tech Massacre

Good advice, but still a bit too tool-oriented. Yes, defensive tools are helpful. They, especially guns, increase your reach, and make it possible to inflict damage with less accurate hit placement. But your open hands (the base of the palm works just as well as a fist and doesn't tend to hurt you as much), the edge of your forearms, near your wrists, your feet, and your forehead are all effective weapons. Most important is hitting the guy where it hurts him most. A knee will break with 12 pounds of force. Kick or push the front of the knee of the leg supporting his weight. Elbows are also prone to breakage, though not as easy mechanically. An adams apple will crush when hit with a spread thumb and forefinger. A knuckle-hit to the temple can be deadly. The side of the neck, upper arm, and thigh are very sensitive to hits (press on your own to find out exactly where). A hard down-strike with your foot to the front of the attacker's ankle will slow him down. An upward strike under the rib cage on his right-hand side (your left) can damage his liver. Kidney punches on the back are brutal. Your forehead can break his nose.

If you have a knife, stab, don't slash, these same sensitive places. A screwdriver works as well as a knife, and you can often carry one where knives are forbidden.

And don't stop after one or two hits. Keep hitting sensitive spots until the attacker stops resisting. Then hold him down: one person per limb plus a boot on his neck. And more strikes if he starts resisting again.

But you're right. Mindset is the most important weapon. Don't stop fighting until you end the attack.

If he has obviously decided to kill you, all social norms are null and void. If you can't run, fight hard.

Posted by Bill St. Clair at April 18, 2007 04:44 AM

True dat. :)

An open hand with the right attitude will be more effective than a 12 gauge with the wrong one, but mainly I was trying to focus on improvised "force multipliers" if you will & with folks who may not have the physical advantages that a fairly in shape male would. Not that it's hopeless without some sort of weapon - but I'm all about making things easier for the good guys (& gals).

The mindset was what got me the most - the "hide or flight" mode that seems to be developing. Troubling it is.

But you are correct & as always give good heed. :)

& if I may - in your post on your comments to my post you added something too useful for me not to include here:

"And I forgot to mention gouging the attackers eyeballs or a kick to his groin."

Thanks Bill. Hopefully anyone who reads what we've written will never have a reason to put any of it to use.

Posted by Publicola at April 18, 2007 06:38 AM

I forget who said it, but, "An armed society is a polite society." Somebody needed to show Cho some .40 S&W courtesy.

Posted by Dan Hammond at April 18, 2007 10:39 AM

"...Many more people are shot that live than are shot that die..."

I'm resolved to take at least 4 shots before I stop my charge and go down. That doesn't mean I've stopped punching, clawing, choking, and jabbing, it just means I need to be within reach of the enemy before the 4th shot. (Assuming an ambush at the doorway isn't available).

Some may say 4 shots is too high. But since what you CAN do has more to do with your mindset than logistics, I'm guessing I should increase my resolve to, say, half a dozen rounds. That should ensure I can clear the distance between myself and an attacker in any type of structure where fleeing isn't an option.

The only thing I'm not quite sure of is if SWAT will show up, clear the structure, and allow medics to get to me before I bleed out. Another way waiting on SWAT causes the death of more innocents.

Still, these options aren't available to the elderly or infirm, so they, more then most, MUST have access to firearms. Too bad that holocaust survivor allowed government to leave him disarmed... again.

Posted by henry at April 18, 2007 10:32 PM

"Thanks Bill. Hopefully anyone who reads what we've written will never have a reason to put any of it to use."

Amen to that.

Posted by Bill St. Clair at April 20, 2007 05:10 PM