Comments: Myth: The MSM is liberally biased

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Hube, I must point out that you yourself, in a couple of different threads at my place long ago, conceded that the MSM had a visible disdain for Gore and was very kind to Bush in 2000. Just as I conceded that the reverse was clearly true in 1992 with Clinton and Papa B.

Posted by dan at June 19, 2007 08:10 PM

Oh, and by the numbers, says you should've used the Texans as your example. Their early odds are 100-1, compared to 90-1 for Cleveland, Detroit, and Buffalo. ;)

Of course as a Steeler fan, I'm genetically programmed to agree that Cleveland is worse.

Posted by dan at June 19, 2007 08:28 PM

I did concede that? I'd be curious as to when I said it. If anything, I'd concede that the media wasn't that "tough" on Bush in 2000, but they hardly had a "visible disdain" for Gore.

Posted by Hube at June 20, 2007 08:38 AM

I think it was in the context of the stories the MSM continued to propagate about Gore, when they were completely untrue and had all been retracted by their original authors -- the Love Canal speech, "Love Story," and "Invented the Internet," plus their love affair with his "tendency to exaggerate."

I was saying that media bias is extremely complex, and rarely as simple as "left and right." And that it had been written several places that the press corps found Gore irritating and that Bush was a breath of fresh air.

Don't remember the specifics of the words used -- fair enough. I just remember saying that the media favored Clinton in '92 and Bush in '00, and you said you'd agree with that.

Posted by dan at June 20, 2007 09:48 AM


Taking political advice from Shrum = asking Marv Levy how to win the last game of the NFL season. I don't recommend it.

The leftosphere has two faulty themes going these days:

One is that it unfairly crucified Gore in 2000. The second is "oh if only it had challenged the WMD issue, the war in Iraq would have never happened". They delude themselves that they have all kinds of power at the same time their influence is declining.

Posted by AJ Lynch at June 20, 2007 10:46 AM