Comments: Sue, sue, sue: Time better used teaching basic values goes to enabling idiocies

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"The school that made violators change into a prison-like jumpsuit? WTF?? IDIOTIC! Why stigmatize a kid so?"

Hardly a stigma, Hube. It turns out a number of students at that school intentionally violated the dress code so that they could wear the jumpsuits! Nothin' says gangsta like prison threads.

Posted by G Rex at October 21, 2008 09:11 AM

Yeah, I guess for certain kids it would be a "status" symbol. I'm thinking of the "average" kid who may forget to dress in code like ONE day -- they gotta wear prison coveralls? That's harsh.

Posted by Hube at October 21, 2008 09:30 AM

I can remember an incident when I was around 8 years old. I went to a catholic school and we, of course, had a dress code. I couldn't find my shoes one morning and my mother (with a toddler and two infants in tow) was running out of time to get me to school. She made me wear my sneakers. I was so upset because I knew I was violating the dress code. I remember crying the entire way to school. The principal took me out into the hallway and explained that although the school has a dress-code my mother was the person in charge of me and if she told me to wear those sneakers then that's what I was to do. I stopped crying at least but was certainly embarrassed and felt like I stood out amongst my peers the rest of the day. Not a good memory but it certainly made an impression since I can vividly remember it over twenty years later!

The point is -- for some reason the youth of today (a lot of them anyway) don't care about breaking the rules. Some of them probably even do it on purpose just to stand out and cause trouble. I guess even negative attention is better than none at all.

Posted by NosyNeighbor at October 21, 2008 10:53 AM

We supposedly had this dress code where you couldn't wear shorts in the summer. However, I saw kids wearing them, and not being all that attentive to school polocies, wore them one day when it was really hot. However, the girls wearing them got away with it by calling them "split skirts" (seriously, what's the difference?), and our rather strict (but usually fair, I think) vice principal drove me home to change them, making me miss class in the bargin and rather embarassing me. It was my first dress code offense, I wasn't a bad kid at that time, so it still seems a bit over the top to me.

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Posted by J at October 21, 2008 09:19 PM

Slightly different recollection: all our schools (UK) require the wearing of school uniform and even that got me in trouble one day, around the age of twelve. In full uniform, my sweater was wearing thin at one elbow. Being a "dreamer" I was resting chin on elbow, gazing out the window when my French teacher (and old bat, really) pointed out this flagrant uniform faux pas, embarrassing the hell our of me..particularly when she invoked "careless mother". Went home for lunch, changed sweaters (getting a row from mother because I 'knew better and should have checked'), had French class after school, again. I found every girl (class of thirty in an all-girl school) in the class had stuck band-aids, safety pins, tape on their left elbows..some even had unravelled the wool to make a hole. I appreciated their loyalty, felt sorry for the teacher, somehow but I never did make that mistake again. Like a previous poster, some fifty years have passed and I remember the humiliation as if it were yesterday. Not pleasant but, I suppose, a valuable lesson in how/why not to humiliate or embarrass others.

Posted by Nancy Cleveland at October 23, 2008 11:04 AM