Comments: Aaron Sorkin is a Whiny Little Man-Bitch, Isn't He?

Well, that is what you get snorting cocaine while writing West Wing scripts, isn't it?

Posted by Gunpowder Chronicle at December 8, 2010 06:03 PM

Long ago Robert A. Heinlein taught me that, yes, if you eat meat you are the moral equivilent to the person who does the slaughtrering.

And I lurves me some steak.

Posted by Lazarus Long at December 8, 2010 06:48 PM

In defense of Palin's shooting, if you have ever shot a scoped rifle that has been dropped, there is no way except flying dirt to tell where the shots went. It was obvious that she knew how to shoot when she was given a dialed in rifle and scope. Without seeing where the shots went no one could have guessed where the misses were going and corrected for the error.

Posted by INSPECTORUDY at December 8, 2010 07:19 PM

Excellent response to Sorkin but I have one nit- pick:

"His belt and loafers lived a tortured life in a factory farm and died a tortured death in a commercial slaughterhouse."

I take exception to your characterization of livestock experiencing a "tortured life and death". I grew up working on our hog farm. One that would be characterized by PETA as a factory farm. Those hogs lived a charmed life compared to what their experience would be in the wild though their lifespans were predetermined for them. Stressing an animal is counterproductive to efficient growth and meat quality. They are treated very well.

"Factory farm" is as much a fabricated term as "assault weapon". It was fabricated to elicit a similar emotional response. I wish you wouldn't use it.

Posted by Hat Trick at December 8, 2010 08:39 PM

"On the right, critics find her gun handling and shooting skills suspect..."

Yes, Bob. Only conservatives know how to handle a rifle or a shotgun and have ever hunted. And "suspect" is putting it mildly. She is no more a hunter than you are a US Marine.


Posted by TBogg at December 8, 2010 09:01 PM

Is it possible that Sarah Palin is, with total calculation... coldy, deliberately, forthrightly trying to drive her opposition nuts? (a mighty short drive, I acknowledge)

She is doing stuff that she knows is going to cause the media and cultural elites to show us all (again!) exactly how pathetically out of touch they are with the rest of us, and the real world as a whole. And if those people were half as smart as they tell us they are, they wouldn't take the bait.... every single time. But they do, again and again.

Litle puppets on a string. It always makes for a great show, on and off of TLC.

Posted by Andrew X at December 8, 2010 10:24 PM

Hat Trick,

That's a fair complaint.

I should have written:

His belt and loafers lived a "tortured" life in a factory farm and died a "tortured" death in a commercial slaughterhouse.

I can't speak to the quality of life of hogs and chickens and turkeys, but I do know that I've seen them grown in a fairly confined conditions. Torture is too strong of a word, but a good life? I rather doubt it.

Posted by Confederate Yankee at December 8, 2010 10:28 PM

Confederate Yankee,

I'd say that our hogs had a life though shorter that was as good as or better than the dogs and cats that live out their lives in our local "humane" no-kill shelter.

Posted by Hat Trick at December 8, 2010 10:43 PM

This type of commentary is not surprising. Methinks that a fairly large proportion of people living in urban areas, particularly those born there as well, have watched too much of the Hollywood products such as cartoons for many years featuring funny, cuddly, wholesome, and intelligent talking animals, to not be predisposed to think killing one is evil or backwards, or both. Toss in your points regarding the reasons for hunting both as sport and self-sufficiency and you only confuse urbanites who neither hunt nor know of sports outside of arenas.

Many people around my home hunted and fished as both sport and significantly for reducing the family budget deficit, or at least increasing the disposable income for such things as clothing or books, cookware or gifts, charity or grace.

I guess these aren't considerations in Hollywood.

Posted by Robert17 at December 8, 2010 10:47 PM

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Posted by gypsy 05 clothes at December 9, 2010 05:36 AM

I can't make a distinction between what you get paid to do and what Michael Vick went to prison for doing.

Therein lies the danger of animal cruelty laws. When city boys get to make the rules about what is cruel and what isn't, everyone in the animal harvesting business is only one judicial ruling away from being a criminal. Shooting a Deer = not cruel. Shooting a dog = cruel. I have a horse and have spoken with other horse owners. If my horse becomes injured in the field (stupid critters are always hurting themselves), I have to let it suffer until a vet comes to put it down chemically. But if I lived further away from people with urban mentalities, I could do the job myself, quickly and humanely and from a safe distance so the distressed animal didn't hurt a human while thrashing around.

Posted by Professor Hale at December 9, 2010 09:54 AM

I took my first deer this weekend. It was very fun. I was a single shot to the vitals, and it only made it about 10 yards before it quit. I field dressed it myself under the instruction of my uncle. It took me about 5 minutes. Pulling it back to the truck over a rough Iowa field revealed that I needed to work out a bit more. I now understand why people hunt. It's great.

It's too bad that Liberals like this Aaron fellow wanted my uncle to shoot me in the face, or worse yet, for me to murder him.

Posted by brando at December 9, 2010 11:00 AM

Also, Lazarus Long is an awesome username.

Posted by brando at December 9, 2010 11:01 AM

The caribou looked to be young, not much of a rack. It reminded me of the scene in "Dances with Wolves" when "socks" was trapped between the soldiers shooting at him and the Indians on the other side of the hill. I wonder what was the distance of the shot? Shooting uphill at 400 yards is a tough shot. May have been an "canned" hunt but the outfitter earned his money. Sarah is putting money in the local economy. Go Sarah.

Posted by kentsmith at December 9, 2010 12:12 PM

Prof. Hale,

I had not realized that it had gotten that bad. I am appalled that you have to wait for a vet now. You are absolutely right that shooting a horse on the spot is the only humane thing to do.

I worked on a ranch in Wyoming as an older teen breaking and training horses. Once a 2-year-old fell over backwards as it was rearing up, and banged its head pretty hard.

It was writhing, and screaming -- that's the only word for it, and it tears me up now 45 years later.

The head wrangler ran and got a rifle from his truck, and shot that poor animal in the head.

I had to do the same for a deer by the side of the road years later when I was a Deputy Sheriff.

NO ONE in their right mind who had been at either incident would have called either anything but a kindness to the animal.


Posted by Bill Smith at December 9, 2010 01:19 PM

NO ONE in their right mind who had been at either incident would have called either anything but a kindness to the animal.

Now it would be called "discharging a firearm within 50 ft of a public roadway" or even "child endangerment" if any of them were present. Of course, as a deputy sheriff, you can get away with a lot more.

Posted by Professor Hale at December 9, 2010 02:30 PM

We raise cattle in western kansas, and we take damn good care of our stock because to do any thing else would be counter productive.

Posted by bman@ucom.net at December 9, 2010 07:03 PM