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I've always thought of myself as part of both a civil union and a marriage. The civil union was me filling out paperwork for the state. The marriage happened in the church.

Heck, my faith doesn't even recognize other CHRISTIAN marriages let alone civil unions.

Posted by Duffy at June 29, 2011 11:50 AM

Glad to see you're still fightin' the fight, Hube!

Doesn't the legislature represent the people? Don't we want this branch of government making the laws and not the judiciary? But now that this actually happens, we're not satisfied.

I think what you're missing here is that..well, you're attempting to make a rational point there. Surely you know that for most of those who are terrified of gay marriage -- Republican or Democrat -- it's not about reason.

Look, we all know this fight is over. It's just a matter of time. So every time the process takes another step (like legislative approval), the argument changes. The NR article you cited represents the last hope: The legislature is now not enough, and it's all about the referendum.

And BTW, regarding those referendums and public opinion, which you touched on in your last sentence: I *know* you couldn't have missed the headlines this spring that polls (Gallup, ABC/WaPo/CNN) began showing that Americans favor gay marriage. The poll you link to is almost two years old! When it comes to this issue, is an eternity. I see how you found that at the top of the page on Marriage, but if you look below, there are updated 2010 numbers.

And here is Pew as of 3/2011:

http://people-press.org/2011/03/03/fewer-are-angry-at-government-but-discontent-remains-high/

Here are

Posted by dan at June 29, 2011 12:24 PM

Hi dan,

Thanks for noting an updated poll. I merely Googled "poll gay marriage civil union" and looked for the most recent one. I wasn't trying to be deceptive. Nevertheless, your point about trend may be right; however, gay "marriage" is still opposed by more than not.

Posted by Hube at June 29, 2011 12:33 PM

Yes, I figured as much. I saw how you made the mistake.

But as I mentioned, this past spring we learned that in fact a majority *did* support gay marriage -- in multiple polls -- for the first time. It's exactly like civil rights issues in the 60's and 70's -- people are either becoming OK with it, or pretending they are. Either of which I'm more or less fine with.

Gallup 53/45; CNN/Op. Research 51/47; ABC/WaPo 53/44. Those numbers here.

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