Comments: SICK

Sarah, check out Glen Reinsford's "Age of Tolerance". A current events "Atlas Shrugged".

And I hope you're feeling better about Charlie, dogs like kids get over it and love you no matter.

Posted by Mary*Ann at February 23, 2006 01:59 PM

'Grok,

Wish I could offer words of encouragement but I'm afraid your totally correct.
I hold on to the idea that the day will come when the "tipping point" is reached (think along the lines of the cartoon bulls*!t) and more and more people realize that the Muslim
majority is our enemy not the minority. (I've come full circle on this myself).
Thank you and your husband for his service to our great country.

Posted by tim at February 23, 2006 03:25 PM

(sigh) you're wrong. The quote that angers you refers to the tireless efforts of countless Islamic groups that are mainstream and moderate and try to tell the world this, over and over. But that doesn't make the news, and suckers just take the most extreme behaviour that is on the news and spoonfed to them daily and say "that represents all of Islam". The suckers say "spoonfeed me more!" and they are not disappointed.

Try to grok all the Islamic organizations decry terrorism every chance they get.

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Posted by question at February 23, 2006 05:53 PM

Oh I couldn't agree more! We're dammed if we do, and dammed if we don't (as Americans)...we're expected to help everyone all the time and then turn the other cheek...I'm sick of it, as well. What really makes me nautious are fellow Americans who criticize the actions of our military in some of the aforementioned situations...are they crazy?? Seriously...it's like we're on a school-house point system...+1 for every humanitarian thing you do and -25 for everything that is slightly questionable...the result: always in the negative. Argh.

Posted by Nicole at February 23, 2006 06:16 PM

If Muslims want to live in "the West" they have to get used to the fact that "freedom of speech" means freedom to criticise.

They have to get used to the fact that people outside of their group are going to criticize their group, it's members, it's leaders, and yes, even it's prophets and icons.

Newsday, a newspaper in Long Island, New York, many years ago printed a cartoon mocking the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church, calling him, essentially, an idiot.

I, and many other Catholics, were outraged, wrote letters to the editor, and cancelled our subscriptions to "that liberal rag".

We didn't riot, we didn't murder, we didn't destroy.

That is how dissent and outrage works in a free country, and any new arrivals must get used to it unconditionally.

Or else get out.

Posted by Sean at February 23, 2006 07:36 PM

Hey Nicole how many points should you get per dead civilian in Iraq?

Posted by question at February 23, 2006 11:16 PM

Considerably more than just standing with Denmark is now urgent to the point of being mandatory.

Posted by Francis W. Porretto at February 24, 2006 12:48 AM

Sarah --

Amen Sister! Well written.

Posted by MaryIndiana at February 24, 2006 05:16 AM

Isn't being held to a higher standard the inevitable result of our constantly telling everyone that this is the greatest country on the Earth? I for one hope that we always hold ourselves to a higher standard, that we are never satisfied with ourselves just because we're no worse than a Bin Laden or a Saddam Hussein.

I'm a liberal, though; I believe in free speech. I have no tolerance for anyone who responds to a cartoon with violence. There may be a valid complaint about inconsistent application of hate speech laws in Europe, but the real problem are the laws themselves. This is one reason that Sarah was wrong to suggest that liberals might be equally comfortable in other countries recently. We liberals love the First Amendment, and as far as I know only the U.S. has that strong of free speech protection. Both people to the left of me and people to the right of me may want to limit free speech, but I say the more of it the better. The solution to problems caused by speech is more speech.

Posted by Pericles at February 24, 2006 08:37 PM

As a liberal, I too condemn anyone who would respond to speech with violence. I don't (personally) know of anyone who is holding the West responsible for the behavior of Muslim groups in Europe who are rioting in response to those cartoons. As far as I'm concerned, if you live in Europe or America, you play by the rules. And the rules say religious figures are open targets - that's why I'm allowed to say that Jesus and his diciples seem really gay.

But how can you take the actions of America in Iraq and measure them up do those handful of examples of Muslim non-assimilation in the West and say that America is the victim?

Civil war is breaking out. Iraq is falling apart and thousands and thousands are dead. And a school in St. Paul is offering the OPTION of Islamic-sensitive art classes to muslim kindergartners.

I'm sorry, but how does that add up to America leading by example? How are you sick of something that doesn't even exist?

Posted by Will Somerset at February 25, 2006 10:19 PM