I disagree with you here. I think that those soldiers did very well. I also believe that sometimes there is a time to fight, and sometimes it is better to save up your strength for a future battle. It is pretty clear that these soldiers were doomed from the beginning. This wasn't just a case of them wandering into Iranian waters. There was some plan from high up, to cause an international incident, so as to fuel Iran's propaganda machine. They were ambushed by 6 boats, I believe. Okay, yes, they could have fought, but they would have been killed, and then the story would have been: "they wandered into Iranian waters, and started shooting at us, so we killed them." I think their conduct in captivity was stiff-upper lip: we never saw pleas of mercy, crying or anything. There were just these mechanical sounding apologies. I don't think that anyone believed them. And pretty soon it became very clear (probably after that fake letter was released from the female in their ranks) that this was just some pathetic hostage situation that you would think belonged more in an Austin Powers movie, than in real life.
I don't think Iran won any points internationally with these hijinks. Perhaps at home, but they would have made it into a propaganda tool with their people no matter what. I was thinking that they must have had a pretty good commander to keep it all together, they never seemed really scared on TV. They kept their cool.
Plus it irks me that a US military commander is so quick to jump on TV and criticize soldiers of an ally publically. I mean, I find that pretty discraceful. We are supposed to be allies in this war, we are supposed to help each other. And for him to just jump onto TV and bitch smacks of self-aggrandizement, and its propaganda of another form.
I do agree that joking around with the Iranian president could have been avoided, they could have restrained themselves then. When I saw that though, I was like, what fricken country kidnaps soldiers, then has the President of their country present at the release. I mean, that is just too weird. That is not a rational country.

Posted by CaliValleyGirl at April 8, 2007 12:46 PM


This is a tough one. If we were captured in Iraq, I knew without a doubt that we would be getting the "big haircut" eventually so my attitude to my captors would be, "Screw you and the horse you rode in on".

But the Brits had a young female subordinate present and were in Iran. While we're all military and all accept the risk, I have to admit that I don't know what I would do if I had a young female subordinate to think about. I know I could not look at her without thinking of my daughters. Not to diminish a single bit what the POWs in the Hanoi Hilton went through, but they didn't have to deal with a female POW.

Yeah, yeah, I know...females can take care of themselves. But I think most males would automatically go through more extremes to protect that female than a fellow male soldier.

Posted by R1 at April 9, 2007 12:03 AM

"We're doomed." The first true thing I have seen you write.

Posted by Q at April 10, 2007 03:06 PM