Comments: Americans implicated in UNSCAM

I don't want a mudfest either, but perhaps some advice would be helpful on how we can ensure Marc Rich's pardon wasn't 'bought' if the investigation isn't allowed to "go there"?

Posted by Paul at December 2, 2004 10:13 AM

It is all well and good to say let's not go overboard on something, but the Clintons already received a pass of sorts on the Marc Rich pardon since he was leaving office at the time. Otherwise, there certainly would have been a thorough investigation. Both Democrats and Republicans were outraged by the timing of the pardon and the obvious implications of over a million dollars in donations to the Democratic Party and Clinton Library by the Rich family preceding the pardon. Remember, Rich had been charged with stealing over $50 million from American taxpayers and fled to Switzerland to avoid prosecution.
I'll grant that Clinton has no connection with the Iraqi Oil for Food scandal, but one doesn't need to be a scandal monger to have the memory of the Rich pardon refreshed or to make assumptions about how deserved Rich was of such a generous Get Out of Jail Free card. (Well, not exactly free.) Maybe he had to replace money spent for Clinton donations, giving the timing.
Additionally, Hillary is an obvious candidate for '08, as well as a US Senator, so the pardon is not water under the bridge that we need not revisit.

Posted by mikem at December 2, 2004 03:38 PM

It's going to be awkward, for sure, and Hillary's potential as a candidate in '08 will heighten the rhetoric (although the Rich scandal could derail that because, as you've both pointed out, these latest allegations already bring the Clinton name back into the mix.)

But the level of the rhetoric can either be vicious or factual, and all I'm asking is for focus on facts.

Posted by Debbye at December 2, 2004 07:16 PM

Finally! Something about the Oil-for-food Scam that the European press can latch onto.... there was an AMERICAN involved! Ha! Ha! Never mind the french banker behind the curtain!

Posted by Joe N. at December 5, 2004 05:21 PM

What, no post about your being in the 2004 Weblog Awards?

Oh well, you've got my votes!

Posted by Beth at December 5, 2004 06:22 PM

Yeah, I voted for you too. In fact two days in a row, which is allowed. However, at Daily Kos they printed a spambot script that his readers used to hijack the contest. So it looks like all the effort Wizbang put into an inclusive contest will be for naught. The Kos Kollective are quite pleased with themselves. All this while they are still whining about the 'stolen' election.
I guess this election was about values in more ways than one.

Posted by mikem at December 5, 2004 10:03 PM

What? This little mud puddle of a blog was nominated for something? Geez, Dubbya, 20 years from now, you'll be so embarassed!

...like David Duke cringing when he sees photos of himself in a white hood.

Posted by Canole at December 8, 2004 05:47 AM

DEAR CANOLE:

I would like to be having your manbabies now.

Posted by JOEY at December 8, 2004 09:34 PM