Comments: The map and the territory (updated)

Thank you for this. Shall read & re-read.



Reflections on the Revolution in France by Edmund Burke.

Suggest start with his last two paragraphs.
Burke speaks to us across the centuries; a worthy, indeed.

See also his thoughts on Marie Antoinette.

Stay cool with Coolidge.

Posted by maz2 at May 27, 2005 11:28 PM

Very interesting, Full of intagibles and nuance.
Let's see if this 9th grade drop-out can get some of the Gist. Whearas we used to have these simple clubs, the Conservatives and the Liberals, known as the left and right. The Liberals used to spend too much money, so we turfed them and elected the Conservatives to get the books back in line. Now both clubs have muddied things by trying to cover the other's territory. The Liberals have developed Corporate conservative facets and the Conservatives promise not to be too Fraser institute like. Oh the confusion.

Here in British Columbia, Gordon's Liberals are really bottom line worshippers. More right than the Social Credit ever were. It's too bad because while I applaud getting accounts under control, being cruel to the poor and disabled is not smart politically and will come back with a nasty bite. I was quite surprised the NDP didn't lead this time. They did rebound from two members to thirty-four though. Close.

So nationally it may no longer be so important to elect a certain party as it will be to get legislation enacted that will return integrity to government. Legislation like Whistle-Blower Protection law that protect revenues from wholesale theft.

Individual Ministry and departmental Account and Audit control as our honest leader Paul promised in his CBCTV grovel speech. He is an expert and his suggestion will make a difference. Now if we can only figure out how to get Sheila's audit alarms acted upon promptly, we may begin to see light at the end of the tunnel, no matter who holds sway in the commons.

Holding Paul's feet to the fire is required to see anything worthy enacted. That requires focus. How do we focus and agree on a priority demand? Once chosen, letters and email with a FOCUS can sway a government where votes are life and death.

If blogger power ever harneses focus, something the MSM can't seem to do, we could exert some real direction on whichever party happens to occupy Ottawa at the time.
73s TonyGuitar

Posted by TonyGuitar at May 28, 2005 02:50 AM

University of Calgary (National Post today)

Who's the best - eh?

A web-based survey of adult Americans living in Canada who have used both health-care systems, i.e., US and Canadian systems.

Or call 1-877-210-0030 (before 30 June 2005)

Posted by maz2 at May 28, 2005 10:04 AM

Posts like this are why I continue to visit your site - not just daily, but a couple of times a day in case you've posted something new.

I'm not a small "c" conservative - I'm a single mom whose child was born in a common-law relationship (although I had her christened & her father signed the birth certificate, so perhaps I'm more conservative than I'll admit). My daughter spends a significant portion of her time with her father (not sure if that's L or C, but hey, whatever). I'm pro-abortion to a point (much after about 4 months & I'm squeamish, past 6 months...don't go there, and overall I'm not sure WHY it should be funded by the gov't - try & label THAT stand).

The reality is (IMHO) that there is no way I'll find a party that supports my points of view on all issues 100%. My best bet is to find one CLOSE enough, which these days is the CPC. The NDP is too heavy on promises (easy, since the chance of them ever having power and having to DELIVER on same is ... well, normally I'd say NIL but after the budget/NDP budget/whoever climbs on board budget, that's perhaps harsh).

I don't understand the need to label people and put them in a box. Who fits into a box easily (other than a corpse)? Very silly.

Keep up the good work!

A Canadian in a very confusing Canada

Posted by Candace at May 29, 2005 01:41 AM

As I admitted in the update, I am also very confused! I am beginning to realize that both Thompson's piece in the SF Chronicle and the interview are better than even I realized.

Maz2, Thanks, I'm going to the Burke link now. Please keep leaving the links.

Tony, oh no, not the nuance! I apologize. Also, I agree that changing parties won't change the problem and that whistle-blower protection is long overdue.

Your response on your blog to the idea of printing and leaving blog posts in doctor's offices is a good start to get Canadians demanding changes.

If we can get others to use "Libranos" when referring to the Liberal Party, it will be a sign that the message is getting out.

Thanks, Candace, and I completely agree with your position on abortion - I find it impossible to believe that any woman who has borne a child can truly disagree with you - and I too have found that the value of fathers being involved with their children is much more important than is given credit.

In my own case, I was chagrined when the father of my kids often proved better than me in handling some situations and was glad I had shut up and let him lead when he had solutions.

Were I a citizen, I would probably vote for the CPC for many of the same reasons I voted for Bush. I agree with them more than a disagree on a point-by-point basis, and think they are more open to innovation, whereas the Liberals are lost in their own pursuit of power for power's sake.

Posted by Debbye at May 29, 2005 03:58 AM

Q: Please post your comments re the survey mentioned above on health care differences. One gathers you would have had experience with both "systems". Have you taken the survey?

Also, Burke is long, heady reading, IMO. A hard copy / or paperback should be in any good used book store. There is much also about him & his work on the 'net.

(IMO, re abortion:This observer's only comment is that it is regrettable that this has become politicized. Some things should be left to society and not become political.)

Posted by maz2 at May 30, 2005 09:40 AM