Comments: For those who walk and hold the line, I thank you

"We made the decision to go to Iraq, we made that decision with our eyes wide open, and nobody lied to us or misled us."

So, the weapons of mass destruction have yet to be discovered according to you?

"The real question is not why millions of Americans recognize the connection between Sept. 11 and Saddam Hussein but rather why others do not."

Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 and Iraq spawned NONE of the dreadful 19. Your friends in Saudi Arabia were responsible for most of the 19 as well as the state supported wahabbi institutes that teach muslim children to hate infidels the world over.

If anyone needed to have the crap bombed out of them it was SA. Iraq was a threat to no one but its own people - hardly a reason to attack...

Posted by Canuck at July 4, 2005 10:46 AM

Well said and I thank the troops also.

Posted by Dex at July 4, 2005 11:45 AM

Thanks, Dex, and a Happy 4th to you!

Canuck, it takes real talent to completely miss the point yet, by doing so, prove my point.

Posted by Debbye at July 4, 2005 11:34 PM

Canuck, Saddam Hussein was indeed involved in 9-11. Don't believe what the MSM tell you. I could go on but what's the use. I've met many others like you. All of them, as are you, were ignorant of the facts. After the Oil for Food scandal and Canada's connections to it, including the leadership of the Liberal government, how can anyone side with them against the Iraq war. I imagine that if the Liberals had supported the Iraq war then you would have too.

Debbye, I too support your troops. It's sad to say, though, that close to half of Americans do not, despite what some of them may say.

Posted by John Crittenden at July 5, 2005 12:30 AM

"Canuck, Saddam Hussein was indeed involved in 9-11. Don't believe what the MSM tell you."

My friend, your tinfoil hat needs adjustment. You've spent so much time reading far-right blogs you have actually started believing some of the "Saddam was involved" conspiracy theories developed after no WMD were found

They're just as asinine as the theories the far left has come up with regarding Bush being responsible.

Posted by Canuck at July 5, 2005 07:48 AM

Canuck, go talk to CW about Saddam having no connections with 9-11: http://nosuchblog.blog-city.com/

Posted by Dave J at July 5, 2005 06:01 PM

Went there - read that - same old conspiracy nonsense. The far right and the far left have much in common - both sides are willing to believe piffle if it furthers their beliefs...

Posted by Canuck at July 6, 2005 10:07 AM

And the corruption of the U.N. Oil-for-food program? Is that piffle, or best ignored as it shatters the illusions of those of us who once respected the U.N.?

Posted by Debbye at July 6, 2005 06:21 PM

What has the U.N. Oil-for-food program to do with the fact that WMD were not found in Iraq? What has the U.N. Oil-for-food program to do with the fact that there is no connection between Sept. 11 and Saddam Hussein?

Honestly, you right-wing nutbars will seemingly do anything or say anything to cloud the facts: we were lied to about Iraq. Full stop.

Posted by Canuck at July 7, 2005 09:28 AM

I am tired of posting and re-posting links to and quotes from Bush speeches that laid out our strategy in Afghanistan and the mid-east.

Americans knew fully that the long-term goal was to help establish a consensual government in Iraq: one that honoured human rights, allowed press and speech freedoms, and was prosperous.

Shorthand: life, liberty, propsperity.

One that might, might, by example give hope and inspire others to achieve those goals.

Has it never occurred to you that you are stubbornly clinging to a red herring rather than face the fact that Canada failed to participate in this bold initiative? That Canada wanted the stability of a murderous tyrant rather than the risks of liberty?

If you really can't connect the Oil-for-food program to bin Laden's accusation that the USA was responsible for thousands of dead Iraqi infants then you are willfully blind. Full stop.

Posted by Debbye at July 9, 2005 02:09 PM

"If you really can't connect the Oil-for-food program to bin Laden's accusation that the USA was responsible for thousands of dead Iraqi infants then you are willfully blind. Full stop."

Obfuscation of the worst sort. I supported Bush and Blair initially in the war because I believed their main plank that Iraq was a clear and present danger to our society. They were not. He had a 1960's military and no WMD. They were not a threat to anyone save their own population (which is essentially the story in most of the middle east) Sorry that it irritates you that this is a fact.

Iraq was a blunder. Oil for food is an obfuscation device employed by the right wing to obscure the fact that Iraq had no WMDs, they were not linked to islamic scumbags and there was no reason to attack Syria would have been a better choice (let alone Pakistan of Saudi arabia - the home of terrorism)

Canada was correct (although I disagreed at the time to the chagrin of friends and family) to not attack Iraq. The question you have to ask yourself, are you safer now that Iraq is on the precipice of being a theocracy?

Posted by Canuck at July 9, 2005 03:43 PM

Did the Iraqi people have a future under Saddam? Do those who live in the mid-east have futures under the despots that run their countries?

As for the UN Oil for food program, how quickly we forget that the suffering of the Iraqi people under the sanctions was a major grievance and one upon which Osama bin Laden justified his fatwa on the USA.

There other connections between Saddam, al Qaeda and Sept. 11 that can be regarded as circumstantial and/or nebulous and thus wouldn't pass muster in a criminal proceeding but connecting the sanctions against Iraq with the causus belli of OBL cannot.

Posted by Debbye at July 10, 2005 01:14 AM

Please. You still ignore the main plank of your presidents argument to go to war. It was a lie. We don't attack countries because their leaders are despots. Otherwise, we would have attacked every country in Africa. Iraq was never a threat. There were no WMDs. Your president lied.

It won't be long until some mad mullah starts running Iraq as an islamic theocracy and then they WILL be a threat...

Posted by Canuck at July 10, 2005 10:04 AM